In a new wide-ranging interview for the cover of WSJ. Magazine’s December/January issue, the NFL superstar, 34, is explaining just how his relationship with Taylor Swift began — and sparing few details!

“I don’t know if I want to get into all of it,” Kelce said during the discussion, before ultimately reflecting on his unsuccessful first attempt to meet the musician at her Eras Tour show in July. Kelce previously shared the story during an episode of his New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce podcast, but now he’s including some important new details.